What happened: an upper court rejected an appeal, stating that the lower court followed a recommendation by the ministry issued 2023.
This recommendation is heavily criticized and the highest court will have to decide this eventually.
In general, it does not matter if the slogan originated from Hamas or not, just that they made it their own. The swastika after all also didn’t originated from the Nazis. At least this is the argument given by courts and the government.
100 years after the Holocaust, Germany is once again on the side of genocidal fanatics.
Germany’s unwavering support of Israel shows that Germans have learned nothing from the horrors of the Nazi evils. Nie wieder should mean never again, but it somehow doesn’t.
Because the narrative of the “grand realization” alignment towards liberal humanism, a great enlightenment in which the west after its darkest hour - saw the depravity of fascism and promised to do better. Was just that, a narrative. A modern fable.
The nakba happened in 1948, The UK put Kenyans into concentration camps in 1952, the US killed 25% of all North Koreans in the 1950s, France did horrific violence with the aid of former SS soliders in Vietnam and later Algeria 1950-1960s. The genocidal fanatics never went away, they became the arbiters of international law and democracy of today.
It has always been never again…for us.
The remembrance culture was created by Zionists and the west to enable what it does do now. And almost all flavors of the left took it as earnest and now dismay why the farce is collapsing.
In general, it does not matter if the slogan originated from Hamas or not, just that they made it their own. The swastika after all also didn’t originated from the Nazis
You’re allowed to explain what you mean but you’re extremely close to being banned
And you are too credulous. They pulled the more sophisticated, legalese-translated version of DavidDoesLemmy’s comment (see bottom of the thread). Just because they’re smart enough to not get banned doesn’t mean they’re acting in good faith.
I am with you on that. I think my point is: don’t blame the courts, don’t blame the law.
Blame the German government for this stupid “recommendation” and their pro Israel stance because they don’t understand the difference between Jews and Zionist.
What happened: an upper court rejected an appeal, stating that the lower court followed a recommendation by the ministry issued 2023.
This recommendation is heavily criticized and the highest court will have to decide this eventually.
In general, it does not matter if the slogan originated from Hamas or not, just that they made it their own. The swastika after all also didn’t originated from the Nazis. At least this is the argument given by courts and the government.
In case someone wants context
100 years after the Holocaust, Germany is once again on the side of genocidal fanatics.
Germany’s unwavering support of Israel shows that Germans have learned nothing from the horrors of the Nazi evils. Nie wieder should mean never again, but it somehow doesn’t.
Because the narrative of the “grand realization” alignment towards liberal humanism, a great enlightenment in which the west after its darkest hour - saw the depravity of fascism and promised to do better. Was just that, a narrative. A modern fable.
The nakba happened in 1948, The UK put Kenyans into concentration camps in 1952, the US killed 25% of all North Koreans in the 1950s, France did horrific violence with the aid of former SS soliders in Vietnam and later Algeria 1950-1960s. The genocidal fanatics never went away, they became the arbiters of international law and democracy of today.
It has always been never again…for us. The remembrance culture was created by Zionists and the west to enable what it does do now. And almost all flavors of the left took it as earnest and now dismay why the farce is collapsing.
You’re allowed to explain what you mean but you’re extremely close to being banned
wtf?
They’re comparing a Palestine liberation slogan to the Nazi’s in case you didn’t notice
They are talking about appropriation of symbols. That’s the example they used, but it’s in no way an ethical comparison
And you are too credulous. They pulled the more sophisticated, legalese-translated version of DavidDoesLemmy’s comment (see bottom of the thread). Just because they’re smart enough to not get banned doesn’t mean they’re acting in good faith.
I am? There is a sentence following. I am paraphrasing the argument of the courts. I never expressed my own opinion here.
Their reasoning is: If a terror organization makes some symbol their own it has to be banned for everyone, everywhere.
I never said that I am fine with any of that.
Alright that’s cool as long as your example pertains to the government and nothing in it was your own opinion.
Factually Hamas did not make the slogan their own and it’s used by all Palestinians which is why the German government ruling makes no sense.
I am with you on that. I think my point is: don’t blame the courts, don’t blame the law.
Blame the German government for this stupid “recommendation” and their pro Israel stance because they don’t understand the difference between Jews and Zionist.
But THAT is only my opinion