• AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Fascists and capitalists have only been defeated historically through force. Communists have historically been voted out of power.

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      2 days ago

      Incidentally, “electoralism” is a bad word in communist circles. I wonder if there is a correlation between encouraging to not participate in electoral process, and being left out of the outcome of it

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        21 hours ago

        I wonder if there is a correlation between encouraging to not participate in electoral process, and being left out of the outcome of it

        There often is. Leftists encourage people to not participate in a capitalist system because most of the major parties in capitalist countries, even ones that claim to be diametrically opposed to each other, are very often near-identical in practice, and simply voting in such a system without a strong socialist component is never, ever, ever enough to bring about meaningful change in a sensible time span.

        Electoralism isn’t a bad word in leftwing circles at all. Countries where left-leaning parties have a reasonable chance of success see leftists absolutely flocking to the polls to help.

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          12 hours ago

          Don’t lump together people from different countries and different situations, they have nothing to do with each other.
          American “leftists” have this quite unique propensity to understand less than nothing about political action. They sit around waiting for a good candidate to appear out of nothing, doing absolutely nothing to help anyone who can one day be this candidate they like, and then every 4 years bitch that candidates they didn’t knew about two months ago aren’t their perfect idea of a lefty.
          Countries where left-leaning parties have a reasonable chance of success are countries where left-leaning people were doing politics, as candidates, as activists, and as voters. They were voting for and partnering with anyone human-shaped to form coalitions and to get their candidates into political positions that allowed those candidates to get more political power that they used to get into better political positions. If at any gathering of any sucessful left-leaning party anyone suggests that the party shouldn’t actually vote in this upcoming election because neither of candidates isn’t their favourite version of reincarnated Marx, that person would be thrown out for being an idiot, or bitchslapped for being a fucking paid troll-agitator.
          Anyone in US who didn’t vote for 99% Hitler over 101% Hitler is personally responsible for every death that occurred on those 2% of difference. And for every difference in those percentages their hands becomes more bloody.
          In democracy the only political agents are citizens, they decide what future they create, using what improper instruments they left with.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        1 day ago

        probably why alot of “leftists” dont vote, cant really say sht about communism if your not even choosing one that is close to it.

  • homes@piefed.world
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    2 days ago

    Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.