• ManixT@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Why do you dedicate yourself to supporting russia? It’s like supporting israel against the Palestinian people.

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      I support the democratic human right of self determination, true for the Donbass as it is for Palestine.

      The war to defend democratic secession after a U.S. backed fascist coup has seen the lowest death rate than any major conflict in modern history.

      That’s what happens when you wage war against a government and not a people.

      Ukraine is just another fascist proxy of imperialism, same as Israel.

      That’s why they’re allies, FFS. It’s all one big fascist death cult.

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        I know it’s pointless to argue with your kind, but what the hell are you talking about? Democratic right of self determination? Where’s the democratic part in a war where you’re defending against an aggressor? Self determination when your rights and your way of living are taken away, when everything you worked toward is stolen?

        Would you happily turn over your belongings when you’re getting mugged in the street?

        Also, imperialism? You mean when a country invades another country to take ownership? If you’re not a fan of that, I got some bad news for you.

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          Why would you need to invade when you can just bankroll a coup? Then you own an entire nation of slaves to be bent to your will as a proxy to steal natural resources.

          Democracy is derived from the individual, and only that; not race, religion, ethnicity, arbitrary borders, or nations itself.

          Ukraine stopped being Ukraine the second its democratically elected government was overthrown.

          No nation has a right to exist, only individuals. Individuals chose to leave by the millions.

          Ukraine has no right to exist anymore than Israel, both fascist ethnostate proxies of imperialism.

          Hope that helps.

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            The irony of you being against imperialism while russia is in the middle of its imperalist war. Ukraine existing is not western imperialism.

            Also your championing of the right to self determination is fucking hilarious given what russian “democracy” is. Easily the most corrupt and rigged elections in the world, maybe only behind some random African dictatorship (which russia usually also supports). Remind me what happened to those political parties opposed to your bro putin.

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              Is it really imperialism when the population overwhelmingly chooses to democratically secede after a coup? Russia is defending democracy. You are advocating for the opposite.

              There’s only one empire on this planet.

              I can talk about Russia’s role in the Sahel all day. They’re helping fight the jihadis that the West and Gulf Monarchies have been aiding. They’ve helped end centuries of French colonialism.

              There was no democracy before the coups in these countries. Did you believe there was? OMFG!

              Do you even know what the CFA franc was? When Russia tries pulling that bullshit, THEN you can talk.

              People like Ibrahim Traoré are modern day saviors to their people.

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                3 hours ago

                If you think russia represents anything close to democracy, you’re an absolute fool.

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                  I don’t think that of America, or most any nations.

                  But compared to Ukraine, fuck yeah. And they are objectively defending democracy in this instance.

                  Let people vote. Respect the decision. Fuck off.

                  This all started with a U.S. bankrolled coup and not a damn thing can change that fact. You can’t unring that bell.