The Spanish government said on Thursday that it would deploy the army to Ceuta to reinforce security after the crossings, which saw many migrants swim around the border to reach the territory.
The Spanish government said on Thursday that it would deploy the army to Ceuta to reinforce security after the crossings, which saw many migrants swim around the border to reach the territory.
There isn’t. Mohammed is a proven liar.
The Qur’an claims that the Bible is the word of God, yet explicitly contradicts it, such as claiming Jesus wasn’t God nor The Son of God, nor was He crucified. Muslims claim that the Bible has been corrupted, but the Qur’an claims that the word of God cannot be changed, and also refers to the Bible in present tense. We know for a fact that the Bible we have now is exactly the same as what they had in 7th century Arabia. Hence, Islam is false. This is known as the Islamic Dilemma.
Doesn’t really matter. Denominations agree on 95% of things. Christians love each other regardless of denomination. It’s people who don’t truly believe what Jesus taught us and care more about power that really care about denominations. I have never actually met a Christian pastor who wanted me to change denomination. My Church invites preachers from different denominations. My family is divided among Christian denominations as well. We have zero issues with each other apart from some recreational debates which we both know won’t change each others minds, but it’s just a fun activity to open up scripture and present our points for why we believe in a certain minor thing and why. There’s a strawman where people think “they believe if they’re not in the same denomination they’re not going to heaven” it simply isn’t true. I truly believe that all of my Christian Brethren will be in heaven, whether they are Papist, Eastern, Anglican, Lutheran, Baptist, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, etc. One of us is probably more right than the other, but we’d just laugh about it.
At the same time, Atheism isn’t completely coherent either. It’s split between Anti theism, Agnostic Atheism, Agnosticism, and plain old “I believe God doesn’t exist” which I’ll just call pure Atheism. There’s also Humanism which believes in morality, and a moreso form of Nihilism which doesn’t (forgive me if I am not up to scratch with the terminology here, but my point still stands).
We have some historical evidence suggesting this, sure.
But we have no way of confirming what those experiences actually were, or if they even happened.
Again, do you believe in allah? People regularly die for their belief in him, often taking others with them.
This is not evidence that their beliefs are true. This is evidence that their (and your) beliefs are deadly.
By who? And again, how do we know it happened? Proclaiming something does not make it true.
They were tricked like the other disciples. Why is that less likely to you than a magic god man rising from the dead?
So is Jesus. His prophecies did not come true.
By that same logic, christianity is also false. The christian bible contradicts itself many times despite claiming to be the word of god. It literally cannot all be true. It can all be false.
Bullshit.
Mkay. Citation needed, firstly, but even if the difference is as low as 5%, that could include anything. Homophobia? Misogyny? Slavery? Oops, you allied yourself with people who believe god wants you dead. Do you let them kill you, just in case they’ve got it right?
Bullshit. Would you like some examples of christians calling each other sinners, heretics, etc based on arbitrary nonsense? There are many.
What did he truly teach us? The bible contradicts itself. “Tell lies to suit yourself”? No thanks, that’s suicidally stupid.
But the denominations each think they are true and inevitably vie for power.
You haven’t looked very hard. Do you know what an evangelical is?
Proving my point: religion encourages division and there is no unifying standard, even in your own church, even in your own family.
It is true, depending on the denomination.
You somehow are still not realizing that you already wrote a blank check. There is no walking it back now. If someone reads the bible and interprets their own denomination as the only valid one (like the bullshit jesus spewed), they will believe you are not going to heaven unless you think like them.
But you have no idea whether you’re right. If you get to heaven and it’s only your denomination specifically, will you still be laughing while everyone else suffers in hell? Or will you be too busy enjoying your rewards to even spare a thought for all the people you failed to save?
It is. It is lack of belief in a god. Given that there is no evidence for any god, atheism makes the most sense.
You’re making shit up.
Atheism is lack of belief in god. Most atheists admit to being agnostic atheists because there is no way for a person to prove a negative.
I am anti-theist because I see that liars like yourself are getting people killed for nothing. But you don’t care, you think they deserve it. You lie that your choices are not causing pain, but they are, and for no special gain.
Everything good found in religion is even better outside of it.
Most atheists also believe in morality, unless they’re as suicidally stupid as yourself. I made a video months ago about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfgXj_V33Pw
Empathy is reasonable. That’s why I’d like you to stop killing innocent people.
Atheism itself is unrelated to nihilism and morality. But the less magical thinking a person engages in, the easier it is to hold them accountable.
You refuse to stop being a death cultist because you think a wizard is telling you how to live and you’re not allowed to question him even though there is no reason to believe he even exists.
That is psychotic.
Fuck you for choosing death.
You have not remotely demonstrated that god exists. Do you understand my points?
They don’t claim that allah personally appeared to them telling them that they must forgo everything and follow him. They believe in a book. If I was martyred for my faith, it wouldn’t prove anything except that I believed.
The difference here is I am talking about the FIRST HAND WITNESSES, the people who MADE THE CLAIM being martyred for their belief. They believed they saw Jesus risen. They believed He appeared to them physically and ate fish, with multiple at a time seeing the same thing. If someone is going to die in regards for something they saw, it’s likely true.
Just say I saw Kim Jong Un cheating on his wife, and I made the accusation publicly, knowing that I would be blasted to bits at point blank with a cannon for saying so and nothing else to gain except thinking this truth was important. And sure, that happens. It lends more credibility to the scandal of Kim Jong Un cheating on his wife that I gave my life up for it- why would I give my life up for something that’s a lie?
The apostles who gave their life up had nothing to gain. So I firmly believe that they didn’t think it was a lie. Therefore there is no other plausible explanation than that it really happened.
Then you have more denominational ranting, but I think this is the same fallacy that’s prevelant on the internet. I have first hand experience, I have researched a lot of this, I have grown up surrounded by different denominations, I know my statement is factually correct. Yes I know evangelicals, generally they’re concerned with just ensuring you’re actually a Christian and not just someone who says they are because they got confirmed when they were 10. Out of anyone, evangelicals are the least concerned about denominations, because their whole schtick is believing that Christ alone saves - which is what Christianity has generally taught in every denomination anyway, and work towards removing the distressing superstition of works-based salvation.
Tangent because this is my special interest lol
barring Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy - Although these, especially Roman Catholicism, has sat down and actually worked out faith alone to the point that they basically believe the same thing, it’s just the technicalities are different, with Roman Catholics believing when the Holy Spirit regenerates someone, their faith becomes truly visible by their works which also contribute and confirm to their salvation, while Protestants believe that the faith saves and the faith produces works as evidence of salvation. Basically, at the end of the day, a Christian looks exactly the same and they agree on who is a Christian
It’s like whenever there is a thing happening in your country and there’s a sensationalist article which overblows it, and you say “actually no, I don’t get xyz’ed every day” and then someone posts an article saying “actually, you’re wrong”.
I said my denomination is different from my parents, who’s denomination was different from their parents. My friends are interdenominational, so is fellowship my church engages in. If you are going to provide an example of what I am saying is being wrong, you’re either going to provide an example of some war from three hundred years ago or an example of some dude in the middle of nowhere in one congregation with a whole flock of like 30 people being a sectarian douchebag saying he is the one true church.
It isn’t, unless you’re counting sects which aren’t even Christian like Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormons (although pretty sure they’re quite universalist as well)
Find any Church that publishes a statement of faith. I can guarantee you that it is a paraphrase of the Nicene Creed if they have not flat out pasted the Nicene Creed in there. Denominations are formed over random stuff, usually church structure. Also things like “how much do we eat Jesus during Holy Communion” or “when do we baptise people” (probably the biggest thing because exclusive credobaptists exist, although exclusive credobaptists generally trend towards having a low view of baptism anyway)
If you say this to me one more time I am going to donate £5 to a church’s evangelical outreach on your behalf.