• Auth@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    If we’re taking into account consumption then China is even worse. They are over half the worlds emissions. They should have a bigger focus on reducing that. Their eco positive initiatives are barely a drop in the bucket compared to all the damage they’ve done.

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        12 days ago

        No country can force china to make something. China chooses to and because they dont care about emissions or environmental regulation its cheaper.

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          12 days ago

          China is the only country with anywhere close to its productive capacity taking such a hard stance on decreasing emissions, precisely because they aren’t dominated by the profit motive. Imperialist countries greenwash by pretending they aren’t reliant on production done outside.

          It’s like a landlord bragging that they don’t need to work to live. Someone has to work so the landlord can live, it just isn’t the landlord.

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            11 days ago

            not true there are plenty of countries that could have scaled if they ignored calls to reduce emissions

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              10 days ago

              China isn’t ignoring calls to reduce emissions, it’s one of the only countries effectively meeting them while producing what the entire world relies upon. That you continue to fall for the green washing from imperialist countries blaming China for their own parasitic economies is baffling.

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                10 days ago

                China isnt ignoring calls to reduce emissions they’ve just spent the last 15 years exponentially increasing emissions.

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                  7 days ago

                  Per capita consumption, ie the actual environmental impact of the average citizen of China, is far below the EU. You’re falling for greenwashing while China continues to focus on creating an actually green producer country, instead of pretending the fact that you don’t produce anything means you’re good environmentally.

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                    6 days ago

                    Per captia consumption is not relevant to emissions. China chooses to manufacturer with low regulation and dirty power sources. They cant then turn around and say its the EU citizens fault for buying from them. China is poor in every single environmental stat and you’ve run down the entire list to the point where you’re trying to argue on per captia consumption. By the way half of china’s population is rural and poor the other half are very close to the EU citizens in consumption.

                    The EU does produce goods and they have strong environmental regulations but you cant compete against the country that is willing to poison its own rivers to avoid the cost of proper disposal. That makes the EU far ahead of China and this is ignoring things like labour laws, healthcare, justice etc.