Four years after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the Russian economy is showing clear signs of structural exhaustion. The contours of a genuine economic endgame are coming into view for Russia. This is the finding of a new Kiel Report published by the Kiel Institute for the World Economy and the Stockholm Institute of Transition Economics.
      • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
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        4 months ago

        I said I will believe it when I see it, since I have seen people say things like the headline of this article for years

        no you didn’t. Don’t lie.

        I’ll believe it when I see it. I have been hearing this since 2022 and they’re unleashing more and more ballistic missiles on Kyiv every week

        Also I never replied to that comment of yours, I commented to your Von der Leyen quote which you implied to be incorrect.

          • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
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            4 months ago

            lol you dumbass read my initial comment on this article.

            Guess what I quoted above you illiterate clown

            Yep, it was wildly premature to claim such a thing. And the data afterwards of the Russian economy hanging on for years have shown that.

            So you finally answered my initial question, amazing. Took for fucking ever.

            No her claim was factual, dumbass.

            You just read “will drain Russia’s economy” and understand “will immediately lead to a meltdown of Russia’s economy”

            Don’t blame others for your illiteracy

              • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
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                4 months ago

                Ahhhh, so you were… how you say it… “just asking questions”?

                Since you’re still on about this, yes, I admit I was wrong about this.

                I assumed you were informed on the subject matter and were “just asking questions” to push an agenda.

                But turns out you were trying to employ the Socratic method. Which requires a deep understanding of the subject matter, which of course you lack. You’re just an idiot who doesn’t understand how economies work and who takes clickbait headlines as fact.

                Me accusing you of “just asking questions” was giving you orders of magnitude more credit than you deserve.

                  • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
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                    4 months ago

                    I am informed.

                    reading clickbait headlines isn’t being informed.

                    But you keep forgetting you haven’t made a single valid point in this entire discussion.

                    You wouldn’t notice one of it hit you in the face. Except maybe if it came with a clickbait headline.

              • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
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                4 months ago

                Don’t quote it. Read it.

                Sure, let’s do that.

                I’ll believe it when I see it. I have been hearing this since 2022 and they’re unleashing more and more ballistic missiles on Kyiv every week

                I’ll believe it when I see it.

                no mention of the word “headline”

                I have been hearing this since 2022

                no mention of the word “headline”

                and they’re unleashing more and more ballistic missiles on Kyiv every week

                no mention of the word “headline”

                I said I will believe it when I see it, since I have seen people say things like the headline of this article for years

                huh

                And how many questions of mine have you not answered.

                yeah, not engaging in your gish gallop

                My question to you was the answer dumbass

                no

                The sanctions were intended to drain the economy so much that Russia couldn’t continue fighting

                no, and that’s not what Von der Leyen said either.

                That’s your wishful thinking based on incorrect understanding. Again, don’t blame others for your illiteracy.

                There was discussion back in 2022 about what can and can’t be achieved with sanctions. And it was constantly reiterated that it would take years to have major economic impacts as Russia wears out industrial machinery beyond its useful lifetime, and burns through its substantial monetary reserves. The only short term hope was that the Russian elite would have more power and force Putin’s hand to protect their wealth.

                So if you were one of the idiots who didn’t listen back then that it would take years, and then misinterpreted every clickbait headline as a factual statement about the immediate collapse of the Russian economy that’s on you. Maybe stick to simpler topics.