Yes this is a strong point I don’t disagree with either. I look at it like this: Yes, parents should be afforded their natural right to access their children. No, parents should not have medical, total financial, or personal control over their kids until an arbitrary age. The secret sauce imo is properly socialized childcare; parents could be granted the benefit of the doubt that they’ll do right because there’s so many resources available to them to make it manageable, this also ensures a social standard of education & healthcare applied at the youngest possible age.

At that stage you could severely increase the legal penalties for neglecting your child and introduce more safety nets in way of developmental check-ins and home visits. I would support an outright ‘parenting license’ in a hypothetical society where childcare was completely socialized.