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  • vyitnoomyr@lemmygrad.mlBanned
    22·
    11 days ago

    [2026-06-18] @soil_owner@twitter.com: It’s pretty clear there are four and a half TRULY sovereign countries i.e they have nukes, a capable conventional military, control of the information space, and some level of resource security:

    1. The US

    2. China

    3. Russia

    4. The DPRK

    4.5) Iran (no nukes, yet)

    [2026-06-18] @thereisnobeth@twitter.com: crazy how you don’t actually have sovereignty unless you have nukes

    I think it’s crazy to say that Iran’s not sovereign by this random metric w it’s level of deterrence: the strait, all the missile cities, & the potential of making a thermonuclear within weeks if they need to. No Vietnam is slander, as always.

      • Lenin's Dumbbell @lemmygrad.ml
        13·
        11 days ago

        I agree. I think one of they key reasons no one messed with the DPRK, other than the nukes, is th fact that they border China

        A China with almost no industry and peasants in their army was able to fight NATO and it’s cronies to a standstill while NATO was at its apex.

        Today, China would just outright steamroll NATO like nobody’s business. They couldn’t even hope to fight China on China’s turf.

        No one wants to pick a fight with DPRK when round 2 is guaranteed to be China

      • LittleFellaNamedBoof [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        9·
        11 days ago

        Idk about that. Iran has been getting bombed by the US. The US murdered hundreds of little girls there recently. The US wouldn’t dare do that to the DPRK. The DPRK is also doing pretty well economically right now. At the end of the day Iran can cause the global economy massive issue, but the DPRK could nuke the US mainland. That’s not even in the same wheelhouse of power.

        • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
          2·
          10 days ago

          Its not about “power” it is about charting their own path and being self reliant. DPRK is still very dependent on China and Russia. China and Russia use trade with DPRK as a way to spite usa. (not exactly but there is a direct correlation between how big a dick usa is being and how much trade they do with DPRK) DPRK don’t have anything to offer that China and Russia can’t source somewhere else for a similar price.

          Being able to fire nukes at usa is nothing compared to being able to strangle the entire world economy as Iran has. There is no way for DPRK to win a nuclear exchange with usa. The best they can manage is hurting usa while getting annihilated.

          Iran has the entire world economy over a barrel (of oil) at the cost of like 4000 lives. If DPRK used its leverage it would kill every single Korean.