Because they’re going to be eating it later, and this is less fucked up than how factory farmed animals live and die. The whaling that occurs in the Faroe Islands is non commercial, unlike the whaling done by Japan, Norway, Iceland, and South Korea.
If you eat meat you’re just paying someone else to do the same thing out of your sight 🤷♂️ Especially for something like pork, which similarly involves killing a highly intelligent animal. I didn’t grow up whaling, but I did grow up with family members who hunted and fished, and I think it was good for me to see in real terms where meat comes from and participate in processing it.
You’re not going to like this but it’s okay to put more value on certain animals over others. Like, for instance, I value my cats more than any human stranger. If I had to choose who gets slaughtered, it’s going to be you not my cat. Just like I value my partner more than all of you combined.
So you’re oversimplifying this shit thinking you’re proving a point, but really you’re just assuming people won’t tell you the real truth.
People don’t value all animals the same. I feed my animals the factory scraps, too. 5000 chickens are worth less to me than one random cat let alone my own cat. That’s the way it works. So come up with a real argument.
You’re not going to like this but it’s okay for people to want to make a difference. Some people actually give a shit about not causing unnecessary suffering and you not giving a shit doesn’t mean that they aren’t justified in trying to improve animal welfare.
So you’re oversimplifying this shit thinking you’re proving a point, but really you’re just assuming people won’t tell you the real truth.
Thinking for anyone/anything other than the things that personally affect you or the arbitrary things you happen to care about is called basic human empathy. But apparently to some people that’s the fundamental weakness of western civilization.
Have you watched any footage of how cows and pigs are killed? I used to hold your opinion but seeing them struggle for their life against all odds lit a flame in me.
Sure, feel free to go try to convince indigenous people to give up part of their way of life if that’s not ethically fraught to you. I’m not going to do it because if you care about animal suffering this isn’t even a drop in the ocean compared to factory farming. Effort is finite, I’m spending mine on the creatures living in factory farms, not the ocean.
‘They’re just bad and evil and do it for no reason’ would get you failed in an ethnic studies class. If you want to stop it from happening you need to understand the cultural background and significance. Cultures do change, but using colonial influence to force change isn’t the way to do it.
So you wouldnt try to stop a rape from happening if that was entrenched in a culture? Murder is bad and there are no reasons for animals to still get killed today.
You’re making up hypotheticals like any of this is happening in a vacuum. Eating a whale isn’t raping a person (or even an animal as you yourself acknowledge when you call it murder), it’s part of survival for many indigenous peoples living on remote islands. Are you paying to replace all that lost protein, fat, and calories? Do you have any idea how expensive it is to ship it there? Unless you’re dedicating yourself to radically altering the foods available to the people living there, you have no right to criticize how they feed themselves.
It is goofy to fixate on indigenous peoples engaging in sustainable hunts as long as factory farming exists, absolute waste of time. I can’t help but wonder if people freak out so hard about it because they feel like there’s a higher chance of coercing minorities.
Because they’re going to be eating it later, and this is less fucked up than how factory farmed animals live and die. The whaling that occurs in the Faroe Islands is non commercial, unlike the whaling done by Japan, Norway, Iceland, and South Korea.
If you eat meat you’re just paying someone else to do the same thing out of your sight 🤷♂️ Especially for something like pork, which similarly involves killing a highly intelligent animal. I didn’t grow up whaling, but I did grow up with family members who hunted and fished, and I think it was good for me to see in real terms where meat comes from and participate in processing it.
One shit thing doesn’t make other shit things less shittier.
No but if you feel angry at this animal cruelty you can use that to fuel your change away from the cruelty you inflict on animals yourself
You’re not going to like this but it’s okay to put more value on certain animals over others. Like, for instance, I value my cats more than any human stranger. If I had to choose who gets slaughtered, it’s going to be you not my cat. Just like I value my partner more than all of you combined.
So you’re oversimplifying this shit thinking you’re proving a point, but really you’re just assuming people won’t tell you the real truth.
People don’t value all animals the same. I feed my animals the factory scraps, too. 5000 chickens are worth less to me than one random cat let alone my own cat. That’s the way it works. So come up with a real argument.
You’re not going to like this but it’s okay for people to want to make a difference. Some people actually give a shit about not causing unnecessary suffering and you not giving a shit doesn’t mean that they aren’t justified in trying to improve animal welfare.
So you’re oversimplifying this shit thinking you’re proving a point, but really you’re just assuming people won’t tell you the real truth.
Thinking for anyone/anything other than the things that personally affect you or the arbitrary things you happen to care about is called basic human empathy. But apparently to some people that’s the fundamental weakness of western civilization.
I agree with you. I value a human over a chicken. I just value a chicken more than the slight difference between a chicken burger and a vegan burger.
Personally I find dolphins, whales (and also primates, corvids and parrots) more intelligent, sentient even.
That’s why I’m particularly furious about their murder.
That’s not incompatible with my statement
In my case it’s incompatible. I don’t feel the same about cattle, unfortunately. And I can’t force myself to feel it.
Have you watched any footage of how cows and pigs are killed? I used to hold your opinion but seeing them struggle for their life against all odds lit a flame in me.
I suspect it’s cruel and awful and avoid watching it 😔
I know I should become vegetarian
Vegetarianism is a diet. If you believe non human animals don’t deserve to be exploited you are a vegan.
We can just not do both
Sure, feel free to go try to convince indigenous people to give up part of their way of life if that’s not ethically fraught to you. I’m not going to do it because if you care about animal suffering this isn’t even a drop in the ocean compared to factory farming. Effort is finite, I’m spending mine on the creatures living in factory farms, not the ocean.
How about we just don’t murder any animal or human? The Faroese can easily get by without killing thousands of whales they just do it because they can
‘They’re just bad and evil and do it for no reason’ would get you failed in an ethnic studies class. If you want to stop it from happening you need to understand the cultural background and significance. Cultures do change, but using colonial influence to force change isn’t the way to do it.
So you wouldnt try to stop a rape from happening if that was entrenched in a culture? Murder is bad and there are no reasons for animals to still get killed today.
You’re making up hypotheticals like any of this is happening in a vacuum. Eating a whale isn’t raping a person (or even an animal as you yourself acknowledge when you call it murder), it’s part of survival for many indigenous peoples living on remote islands. Are you paying to replace all that lost protein, fat, and calories? Do you have any idea how expensive it is to ship it there? Unless you’re dedicating yourself to radically altering the foods available to the people living there, you have no right to criticize how they feed themselves.
It is goofy to fixate on indigenous peoples engaging in sustainable hunts as long as factory farming exists, absolute waste of time. I can’t help but wonder if people freak out so hard about it because they feel like there’s a higher chance of coercing minorities.