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  • rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml
    31·
    1 month ago

    ❗️🇮🇷| NEW: Iran shot down 3 MQ-9 drones

    What happened in chronological order:

    • Yesterday, the US entered the Strait of Hormoz to attack IRGC speedboats & fisher boats, Iran’s air defenses countered the threat & shot down MQ-9 drones.

    2 of these drones were shot down by the IRGC & one by the Army’s air defense.

    • The downing of these drones in less than 20 minutes caused the US to become confused and disorganized, and unable to locate the air defense site, they attacked several points on Qeshm and Jask islands.

    • US attacked Iranian boats again

    • The IRGC responded against US navy vessels tonight.

    This also explains why Trump posted the AI image yesterday.

    https://t.me/FotrosResistancee/21717

      • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
        24·
        1 month ago

        I don’t think so. The americans are cowards. If they were going to restart the war they would send everything they have all at once.

        More likely this was just testing and probing. My guess is the us military was proving to trump that going back to war would be a massacre. This was the airforce saying “Ok look, we’ll send some drones over to test things out and if it goes well we’ll consider doing some more strikes” and now they are tying to push the “but if it goes badly we are not bombing Iran.”

        I think there is a serious divide between the us military vs. trump and the bourgeoisie. The spoiled rich people are making unrealistic demands and the military are trying to show them and explain how stupid their demands are.

        • GracesArms@lemmygrad.ml
          13·
          1 month ago

          How does Iran react though? This seems like another escalation during negotiations and ceasefire. I hope they have a suitable retaliation in mind. I see senior officials have flown to Moscow im hoping this is preemptive to avoid their assassination whilst they plot a suitable response. Way I see it they have a free hit now. If they can’t hit a us target there’s a giant bullseye just south of Lebanon.

          • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
            16·
            1 month ago

            Shooting them down is a pretty reasonable retaliation for invading their airspace.

            There is no cease fire and never was. usa never held up to its side of the agreement. usa fled and Iran chose to stop firing because they had done all they needed to to the bases in the area.

            Fighting isn’t in Iran’s interests. They have won as much as they can militarily. All they want is usa to leave them alone. Their best weapon to get that is choking the gcc and usa by not letting them transit the strait.

            • GracesArms@lemmygrad.ml
              112·
              1 month ago

              I don’t fully know what occured yesterday, but what I saw was multiple boats blown up and missile systems on the coast. Is that not your understanding? If all that happened was some drones invaded their air space and got downed then I’d be inclined to agree with you.

              Allowing themselves to be consistently attacked during negotiations is also not in Irans interest. Appetite for war in the US has never been lower (ever), so the opportunity is there to retaliate.

              Yes it’s obvious to anyone with eyes Iran just wants to be left alone. And also the same for Lebanon. Thing is that doesn’t appear to be happening does it.

              • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
                141·
                1 month ago

                Iran doesn’t need to escalate because what they are doing is working. The american drone incursion did not achieve any strategic success. Why would Iran change tack?

                usa sent those drones because the strait is still closed, gas prices are rising, and trump looks like a loser. This was not a show of strength by usa. This was a desperate attempt to change the situation because they are losing.

                Maybe usa destroyed some boats, there aren’t any reports of martyrs that I have seen but MQ-9 reapers cost well over $30 million each.

                Even if Iran wanted to hit back what could they do? There are no more american targets in range.

                • GracesArms@lemmygrad.ml
                  35·
                  1 month ago

                  Honestly feels a bit like talking to a wall here but let me restate the same points again if it helps.

                  Why would they change tack? As previously stated once again aggressed upon during ceasefire and negotiations.

                  Even if Iran want to hit back what could they do " If they can’t hit a us target there’s a giant bullseye just south of Lebanon."

                  These were all in my comments. It would be nice to engage with points, rather than restate the same things over and over again. Feels like a serious waste of both our time.

                  This has the exact same energy as when I was treated like an idiot for pointing out a non aggression pact with Saudi did very little for Iran. I was told how incredible it was and I was an idiot for thinking it provided very little because US needs a close geographical location to conduct strikes from. Never minding the other 10 countries in the area still completely on the table.

                  Whatever man, agree to disagree.

                  • prof_tincoa@lemmygrad.ml
                    10·
                    1 month ago

                    You may be a bit too focused on physical damage to appreciate the diplomatic side of this conflict, perhaps 💙