They certainly could fight the paltry military of Europe altogether, particularly with a second front already in Ukraine.
Europe is in a horrible strategic position due largely to outsourcing their defense to the very country now demanding tribute in the form of territory.
You expect the whole world to spend their sons so that Denmark can keep Greenland? Like you think South East Asia and Central Africa and China give a shit if white people decide to kill each other over some Island?
This is not just about Greenland and it is not about “sons”, but you’ll figure it out in time. Good luck becoming another russai/North Korea backwater and hated by all your neighbours. Enjoy your collapse from within.
You expect the whole world to spend their sons so that Poland can keep their territory? Like you think Australia and the US and the USSR give a shit if European people decide to kill each other over some territory?
Europe has their own military gear they produce though. Everything we have they have a version, albeit slightly less advanced. They are way more advanced than Russia militarily. But yeah they haven’t been investing in it because the US has the bases and the armies and navies doing all of that since the great war.
But they are not in that bad of a position. It is just they have bad leadership, like everyone else, and that bad leadership will lead a far right supported by Russia and the US to win elections sooner or later, then fix themselves in power and join the US and Russia in running fascist autocracies. Even if that far right in those countries doesn’t know it yet. And the US and their factions of billionaires will be helping them.
So if Europe got good leadership offering popular reform they could easily hold their own. They won’t though so are in a bad position. They are too busy surrendering to tech and ai, trying to haul the trojan horse inside the walls.
Yeah, Europe has a slightly crumbier version of most of the normal military equipment that the US has. The problem is that they have like 5 of them and the US has about a thousand.
For example, Germany has a really good MBT, maybe even better than anything the US has, or at least better than most of what the US would actually field. Nerds will fall all over themselves to compare and tease out exactly which is better, but here is the thing that really matters:
Germany has about 300 of them. The US has 2,500 ready to deploy main battle tanks that might or might not be better than theirs (but are undoubtedly pretty close) and another 2,000 or so in reserves.
Europe has not prepared themselves for war against anyone, let alone a peer military. The US has.
Europe has not prepared for war because every time Europe wanted to prepare for war the US pushed in the other direction. No common army, no better weapons, no nuclear weapons, … All that was anathema. De Gaulle was right and the rest of Europe should have listened to him since decades ago.
Given that France developed and deployed their own nuclear weapons it kind of seems that option was available to the rest of Europe but they decided not to.
Very brave. Yeah. How many times have your country tell the USA to fuck off?
They can’t fight everyone at once…but most countries are trying to delay that united front for some reason.
It’s a big club
They certainly could fight the paltry military of Europe altogether, particularly with a second front already in Ukraine.
Europe is in a horrible strategic position due largely to outsourcing their defense to the very country now demanding tribute in the form of territory.
When I mean everyone, I mean the whole world, they’re picking fights with everyone, not just the EU. Everyone’s patience has a limit.
You expect the whole world to spend their sons so that Denmark can keep Greenland? Like you think South East Asia and Central Africa and China give a shit if white people decide to kill each other over some Island?
This is not just about Greenland and it is not about “sons”, but you’ll figure it out in time. Good luck becoming another russai/North Korea backwater and hated by all your neighbours. Enjoy your collapse from within.
You seem to be having some real big feelings here. Let me know if you become able to have a conversation like an adult.
The only one acting like a child in this comment chain so far has been you, though…
Its OK that you don’t think the US poses an existential threat to Europe. You’ll find out.
You expect the whole world to spend their sons so that Poland can keep their territory? Like you think Australia and the US and the USSR give a shit if European people decide to kill each other over some territory?
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Europe has their own military gear they produce though. Everything we have they have a version, albeit slightly less advanced. They are way more advanced than Russia militarily. But yeah they haven’t been investing in it because the US has the bases and the armies and navies doing all of that since the great war.
But they are not in that bad of a position. It is just they have bad leadership, like everyone else, and that bad leadership will lead a far right supported by Russia and the US to win elections sooner or later, then fix themselves in power and join the US and Russia in running fascist autocracies. Even if that far right in those countries doesn’t know it yet. And the US and their factions of billionaires will be helping them.
So if Europe got good leadership offering popular reform they could easily hold their own. They won’t though so are in a bad position. They are too busy surrendering to tech and ai, trying to haul the trojan horse inside the walls.
Yeah, Europe has a slightly crumbier version of most of the normal military equipment that the US has. The problem is that they have like 5 of them and the US has about a thousand.
For example, Germany has a really good MBT, maybe even better than anything the US has, or at least better than most of what the US would actually field. Nerds will fall all over themselves to compare and tease out exactly which is better, but here is the thing that really matters:
Germany has about 300 of them. The US has 2,500 ready to deploy main battle tanks that might or might not be better than theirs (but are undoubtedly pretty close) and another 2,000 or so in reserves.
Europe has not prepared themselves for war against anyone, let alone a peer military. The US has.
Europe has not prepared for war because every time Europe wanted to prepare for war the US pushed in the other direction. No common army, no better weapons, no nuclear weapons, … All that was anathema. De Gaulle was right and the rest of Europe should have listened to him since decades ago.
Given that France developed and deployed their own nuclear weapons it kind of seems that option was available to the rest of Europe but they decided not to.
De Gaulle wanted a self-defense system for France. The rest were stupid and relied on the US.