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        Typical far-left blahaj liberal Zionist, I’m guessing believing Israel is committing genocide is antisemitic asw. Noticing Israel’s history of false flags and the INSURMOUNTABLE evidence pointing to ISRAEL being linked to anything is antisemitic I guess, sure bro. What exactly about my statement suggests I’m a 4chan user? This is the thing with far-left or far-right extremists they’ll always wrongfully assume moderates are the extremists because of course no one considers THEMSELVES extremist, this is exactly why someone who’s far right would be so quick to label ME far-left and “woke” despite me being neither and moderate. idk why I’m arguing with a fucking ADL member, Mossad agent or both but I please challenge you to debunk every single piece of evidence I provide below, otherwise please shush 🤫

        D’you really think it’s such a crazy coincidence that ISIS has attacked every single Middle Eastern country EXCEPT for Israel, and whilst Israel bombs hospitals in Gaza because of “Hamas” and how they’re apparently digging tunnels underneath, ISIS operatives get treatment in Israeli hospitals? Or is noticing that antisemitic? Why would every almost single Middle Eastern country fight AGAINST ISIS and Al-Qaeda? Why would ISIS - an apparently “Islamic” terrorist group name itself after a pagan Egyptian goddess? Notice how during the illegal coup against Assad, the west went into Syria claiming it was with the intention to “get rid of ISIS” who Assad was fighting AGAINST and his regime just happened to fall, almost as if they were only there for the pretext to topple his govt which ended up replaced by a member of AL QAEDA a man Donald Tramp constantly praises as such an incredible leader. So Biden and Theresa May went into Syria to get rid of ISIS only to replace it with Al-Qaeda? Okay bro… So EITHER they’re both incompetent AS FUCK or that was their plan all along.

        Why would Colonel Gaddafi, a notorious terrorist sympathiser, a man who funded real terrorist groups like the IRA denounce Al-Qaeda and claim they were behind the western backed terrorist protests against him?

        Now onto Israel’s extensive list of Mossad false flag ops and psyops you should probably get comfortable because this is going to be a LONG read mate.

        The Hannibal Directive

        How Israel Merked its Own Civilians on October 7 - GDF

        Now before you call the youtuber above a “neonazi 4channer” he made a video DEBUNKING all the antisemitic conspiracy theories you’ll find circulating on 4chan, really good watch btw

        What really happened on October 7th - Double Down News (British Left Wing media publication which showed great support to Jeremy Corbyn when he was accused of antisemitism)

        1954 - Lavon Affair

        June 1967 - USS Liberty

        https://ussliberty.org/

        The Day Israel Attacked America - Al Jazeera (Documentary)

        How Israel Got Away With Attacking the U.S.S. Liberty - GDF (The real answer is blackmail/kompromat but this video does a pretty good job of breaking down the events as they unfolded)

        First hand account of USS Liberty Survivor Phil Tourney

        US Naval Court of Inquiry

        1983 - Beirut Barack Bombing

        Israel’s Planned (false flag) Assassination On (notorious & abhorrent war criminal ultra-Zionist) George H.W. Bush on his visit to Spain (confirmed by former Mossad agent Viktor Ostrovsky)

        1994 - Mossad false flag attack on Israeli Embassy in London

        Former Mi5 agent, later turned whistleblower speaks about the attack

        10 Oct 2001 - Just under a month after 9/11 Mossad agents were caught in a plot trying to commit a false flag attack in Mexico, planning to bomb Palacio Legislativo de San Lázaro (Legislative Palace of San Lázaro) in Mexico City

        I could go on but I think you get the point, if I wrote you a list of all of them it would take me longer than a week to type it all out. I’m not even going to begin to talk about every time Israel stuck it’s massive white and blue dick deep inside America’s rectum like their personal bitch (which they very much are) clearly pointing to obvious signs of blackmail and systemic compromise like the Apollo Affair but I digress. Would you like me to go onto their links to 9/11 as well then or is this enough for you?

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          you are posting here in a very very western context. Words like “goyim”, and “jews did 9/11” are used by people who still cheer for the big genocide by genocidesmany where every third victim was jewish, so people will automatically jump to conclusions based on that. You can’t be mad at people for thinking you’re alt-right if you sound like them. Talks like a duck and all that.

          What exactly about my statement suggests I’m a 4chan user?

          Your confusion of judaism with zionism. You seem to think I’m on board with the palestinian genocide, but I’m not.

          But do you think the pissrahelli bombs make a distinction between Iranian/Palestinian Jews or gentiles?


          But replace gay with “jew”.

          The “Jews” didn’t do 9/11. The Judeochristian capitalist elite did and until you can properly identify your enemy you will not make any progress toward defeating it. You can bomb tel aviv all you want (if you need help I’d be happy to get to be able to do something) but the capitalists will then find just find another mask to put on to continue the slaughter if you don’t see it through all the way to Washington DC.

          This is the thing with far-left or far-right extremists they’ll always wrongfully assume moderates are the extremists because of course no one considers THEMSELVES extremist,

          Of course I consider myself extremist. Relative to the current political climate yeah, I’m a radical extremist.

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      you should make a distinction between Jews and zionists/the state of Israel, remember that not all Jews are zionists, there are many anti-zionist Jews who oppose Israel and their genocide.

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        Okay but when I say Arabs are committing genocide in Sudan, I don’t mean all Arabs do I, that goes without saying. Egyptians for example are not, Emiratis are but I think we can all make that distinction.

        Not all Jews are Israelis and vice versa I know bro, I wasn’t the one who made the image. That doesn’t stop the fact that the ISRAELIS that committed 9/11 false flag attacks happened to be Jewish though.

        I know that when a Jew does something bad that’s not a reflection on ALL Jews, same with Muslims, white people, black people, Catholics, Protestants, men, women etc. No shit

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          I understand your point, but please accept my comment as it is intended - well-meaning and constructive feedback. Blurring the lines between Zionism and Jewish people actually provides cover for Israel as it gives them shit to point to and say “look, it’s not about the genocide, our critics are all jew hating anti-semites”, not to mention that you make yourself a useful idiot for actual anti-semites.

          I would recommend that you don’t share memes that blur those lines, because when you do, you just help Israel.

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            Listen brother, as a Polish Brit I have from birth been taught about the centuries the land of my ancestors being colonised, invaded, ethnically cleansed, massacred, occupied and wiped off the map just like Palestine has since 1948 until present day, okay?

            In 1772 before the US even came to existence, Poland was invaded and a third was annexed by the Empires of Russia, Austria & Prussia - this happened 3 more times until 1795 when Poland was wiped off the map completely and lost it’s sovereignty and statehood. It took an entire World War for Poland to gain it’s independence in 1918 and I just pray more than anything that it doesn’t take another world war for Palestine to gain their independence.

            I could be sitting here and play the victim card and cry about bullshit that didn’t even happen to me personally, no one is immune to anything just because their predecessors may have suffered in whatever way. Dismissing every single piece of evidence, CLEARLY pointing to an obvious conclusion as antisemitism is fucking ridiculous. I could list every single piece of evidence right here, but then my optic nerve and eardrums would apparently be antisemitic.

            You have to stop pandering to fucking Jews bro, it’s ridiculous, it grants their fucking victim card validity. This is how you get people like Jeremy Corbyn kicked out of HIS OWN Labour party for “antisemitism” - it’s exactly stuff like this, the cheapening of the word antisemitism that not only harms Jews but strengthens Israel.

            And truth be told Israel isn’t even ran by Jews, they’re not Jews it’s a secular state ran by occultists pretending to be Jews and wearing the mask of Judaism just like Saudi Arabia and the UAE, the Saudi and Emirati Royal families are part of the same organisation, those people are not Muslim. The UAE (or the United Israeli Emirates) is less Muslim than a pig’s asshole, have you been to Dubai?

            It’s not the fact that Israel professes itself as a “Jewish state” that I think it was Israel, I don’t care that they’re apparently “Jews”

            D’you really think it’s such a crazy coincidence that ISIS has attacked every single Middle Eastern country EXCEPT for Israel, and whilst Israel bombs hospitals in Gaza because of “Hamas” and how they’re apparently digging tunnels underneath, ISIS operatives get treatment in Israeli hospitals? Or is noticing that antisemitic? Why would every almost single Middle Eastern country fight AGAINST ISIS and Al-Qaeda? Why would ISIS - an apparently “Islamic” terrorist group name itself after a pagan Egyptian goddess?

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              Please, I am begging you to listen to me, I have been fighting against Zionism for decades, I am trying to help you. You are unintentionally spreading far-right Israeli propaganda.

              I am perfectly aware of how Zionists weaponise accusations of anti-semitism against critics of Israel, but you are unironically HELPING THEM DO THAT.

              And truth be told Israel isn’t even ran by Jews, they’re not Jews it’s a secular state ran by occultists pretending to be Jews and wearing the mask of Judaism just like Saudi Arabia and the UAE, the Saudi and Emirati Royal families are part of the same organisation, those people are not Muslim. The UAE (or the United Israeli Emirates) is less Muslim than a pig’s asshole, have you been to Dubai?

              This is simply wrong, sorry. Judaism is a religion, but Jews are also an ethnic group. Islam is one of the world’s largest religions and it is not a monolith. There are multiple sects of Islam, with two major branches (shia and sunni) and they have very, very different perspectives and laws. This is like saying that unless people are Christian Fundamentalists and follow the Bible’s teachings word for word they aren’t real Christians.

              Please, please, stop this. I am begging you.

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                You are unintentionally spreading far-right Israeli propaganda.

                Far-right Israeli propaganda argues the exact opposite to what I am, they claim “genetic superiority” based on the antisemitic notion of a “Jewish race” Why exactly would my claim of the self-proclaimed “Jewish State” not even being Jewish be “far-right Israeli propaganda” that doesn’t make any sense

                Judaism is a religion, but Jews are also an ethnic group.

                Ironically, THAT is not only far-right Israeli propaganda but an antisemitic myth, created by an antisemite to justify the notion of “Jewish inferiority” through their genes later co-opted and inverted by Zionists for the exact OPPOSITE reason to claim genetic SUPERIORITY as “God’s chosen people” and give some so-called “ethnic” link to the land of Palestine.

                Judaism is a religion, not an ethnic group. If Judaism was an ethnic group, then vast majority of modern day Palestinians would be Jewish since most of them are descendants of the Jews from the land of Ancient Palestine.

                Israel J. Yuval, “The myth of the Jewish Exile from the Land of Israel: a demonstration of Irenic scholarship” (2006) from “Peace and Mind: Civilian Scholarship from Common knowledge” edited by Jeffrey M. Pearl (2011) p. 286, 296

                Shlomo Sand - The invention of the Land of Israel

                The Invention of the Jewish people - Shlomo Sand

                Debunking “Ancient Israel” - GDF YouTube

                An extract from the book “Zionism and the Biology of Jews” by Israeli geneticist Raphael Falk:

                Video going through ACTUAL antisemitic conspiracy theories all based on the notion that they’re an “inferior” ethnic group

                Islam is one of the world’s largest religions and it is not a monolith. There are multiple sects of Islam, with two major branches (shia and sunni) and they have very, very different perspectives and laws.

                Sorry but if anyone knows anything about Islam it’s me, I grew up in a Muslim majority part of London, I used to go to Jummah on Fridays in the local Mosque with my Muslim friends and my Muslim friends would go Catholic Church with me on Sundays as a kid back when I still believed in God.

                The UAE is well known amongst Arab countries as the “Israeli Trojan horse in the Arab world” and the Israelis themselves call them “Israeli Arabs” who also fund far-right islamophobic think tanks in the west, calling for the deportation of Muslims from Western countries, having deep ties to far-right neonazi islamophobic groups such as the EDL (English Defence League - formerly the Jewish Defence League named after the US-Israeli terrorist group) led by notorious cokehead Tommy Robinson (aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) and Saudi Arabia, who has the 2nd largest nation state lobby in the US consider Iran a threat to their entire existence and lobbied for the Iran war harder than even Israel.

                This is like saying that unless people are Christian Fundamentalists and follow the Bible’s teachings word for word they aren’t real Christians.

                You can wear the mask of a religion or ideology without actually being of that religion or truly believing in that ideology. I can hardly call Trump a true Christian despite him professing himself one. Was Hitler’s “National Socialist German Worker’s Party” socialist? No.

                Also it seems you responded before I edited my comment so I’ll paste what you didn’t see:

                D’you really think it’s such a crazy coincidence that ISIS has attacked every single Middle Eastern country EXCEPT for Israel, and whilst Israel bombs hospitals in Gaza because of “Hamas” and how they’re apparently digging tunnels underneath, ISIS operatives get treatment in Israeli hospitals? Or is noticing that antisemitic? Why would every almost single Middle Eastern country fight AGAINST ISIS and Al-Qaeda? Why would ISIS - an apparently “Islamic” terrorist group name itself after a pagan Egyptian goddess?

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      Horseshoe theory in action. I had check to see if I was on a neo nazi website, but nope, we’re on the very left Lemmy where saying Jews did 9/11 is now considered normal

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        I already responded to a different comment saying this but I might as well reply again showing how “horseshoe” this theory is exactly. Nothing about ANYTHING I said is antisemitic I don’t have an antisemitic bone in my body, anti Zionism is NOT antisemitism. And furthermore REAL antisemites are antisemitic with their chest wtf like that fucking little clown Nick Fu*ntes, just like an Arch user you’ll never have to ask if they’re antisemitic because they’ll tell you. They don’t try hide it, they’ll outright say how they believe “there’s a global Jewish conspiracy and global Jewry is running the world” and talk about how they believe their genes cause them to do bad things. So PLEASE don’t pull that bullshit antisemitism card on me bro

        D’you really think it’s such a crazy coincidence that ISIS has attacked every single Middle Eastern country EXCEPT for Israel, and whilst Israel bombs hospitals in Gaza because of “Hamas” and how they’re apparently digging tunnels underneath, ISIS operatives get treatment in Israeli hospitals? Or is noticing that antisemitic? Why would every almost single Middle Eastern country fight AGAINST ISIS and Al-Qaeda? Why would ISIS - an apparently “Islamic” terrorist group name itself after a pagan Egyptian goddess? Notice how during the illegal coup against Assad, the west went into Syria claiming it was with the intention to “get rid of ISIS” who Assad was fighting AGAINST and his regime just happened to fall, almost as if they were only there for the pretext to topple his govt which ended up replaced by a member of AL QAEDA a man Donald Tramp constantly praises as such an incredible leader. So Biden and Theresa May went into Syria to get rid of ISIS only to replace it with Al-Qaeda? Okay bro… So EITHER they’re both incompetent AS FUCK or that was their plan all along.

        Why would Colonel Gaddafi, a notorious terrorist sympathiser, a man who funded real terrorist groups like the IRA denounce Al-Qaeda and claim they were behind the western backed terrorist protests against him?

        Now onto Israel’s extensive list of Mossad false flag ops and psyops you should probably get comfortable because this is going to be a LONG read mate.

        The Hannibal Directive

        How Israel Merked its Own Civilians on October 7 - GDF

        Now before you call the youtuber above a “neonazi 4channer” he made a video DEBUNKING all the antisemitic conspiracy theories you’ll find circulating on 4chan, really good watch btw

        What really happened on October 7th - Double Down News (British Left Wing media publication which showed great support to Jeremy Corbyn when he was accused of antisemitism)

        1954 - Lavon Affair

        June 1967 - USS Liberty

        https://ussliberty.org/

        The Day Israel Attacked America - Al Jazeera (Documentary)

        How Israel Got Away With Attacking the U.S.S. Liberty - GDF (The real answer is blackmail/kompromat but this video does a pretty good job of breaking down the events as they unfolded)

        First hand account of USS Liberty Survivor Phil Tourney

        US Naval Court of Inquiry

        1983 - Beirut Barack Bombing

        Israel’s Planned (false flag) Assassination On (notorious & abhorrent war criminal ultra-Zionist) George H.W. Bush on his visit to Spain (confirmed by former Mossad agent Viktor Ostrovsky)

        1994 - Mossad false flag attack on Israeli Embassy in London

        Former Mi5 agent, later turned whistleblower speaks about the attack

        10 Oct 2001 - Just under a month after 9/11 Mossad agents were caught in a plot trying to commit a false flag attack in Mexico, planning to bomb Palacio Legislativo de San Lázaro (Legislative Palace of San Lázaro) in Mexico City

        I could go on but I think you get the point, if I wrote you a list of all of them it would take me longer than a week to type it all out. I’m not even going to begin to talk about every time Israel stuck it’s massive white and blue dick deep inside America’s rectum like their personal bitch (which they very much are) clearly pointing to obvious signs of blackmail and systemic compromise like the Apollo Affair but I digress. Would you like me to go onto their links to 9/11 as well then or is this enough for you?

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          Do you think 9/11 was a false flag done by the Jews? Normally posts like this should be removed because they’re clearly bigoted.

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            A comment not being removed (so far) by the moderators of a particular instance does not equate to the entire lemmy community agreeing with that comment. To even make that argument is incredibly dishonest and plainly stupid.

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            Okay would you please care to explain how exactly that’s bigoted? Because you’re literally cheapening the word bigoted and antisemite when the words don’t apply just like Israel does by calling everything antisemitic.

            Is saying Muslims did 9/11 islamophobic? Is saying the the Reichstag Fire was a false flag by the Nazis Germanophobic racism? How exactly does this apply here mate? Who exactly is committing the genocide in Gaza? Is pointing out the fact that they’re JEWS antisemitic? What exactly is bigoted about my statement?

            If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s obviously a cow because saying it’s a duck is fucking antisemitic.

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        I had to check to see if I was on a neo nazi website

        Didn’t know the ADL was policing Lemmy now 🥴

        I’m guessing this one’s antisemitic as well then?

        Colonel Gadaffi must’ve been a neonazi as well then?

        No one’s falling for your hasbara, ziobot

        A country NOTORIOUS for it’s false flag attacks having been caught numerous times in the act, including RECENTLY in Saudi Arabia, and ACTIVELY committing genocide but NOOO them committing 9/11’s just a looney fucking “conspiracy theory” despite all evidence pointing to fucking Israel, just like how I’m sure the attack on the USS Liberty, JFK, the notion that they stole US nukes (aka the Apollo Affair) and that Israel’s committing genocide is ALL just an antisemitic blood libel because that’s simply out of the realm of possibility is that right?