These mushrooms produce pretty consistent results. From what I’ve heard, most people that eat them report seeing tiny men. Wayyy more consistent and specific of a hallucination then eating a standard cubensis mushroom.
I’m not claiming there’s anything more than a hallucination going on here, but it is fascinating how specific and consistent the results are. Makes you wonder about the future of hallucinogens, perhaps one day we can synthesise specific trips, kind of like a total recall situation where you could choose what you want to experience
Sounds way more consistent than any halucinogen with a common theme that people see. Like DMT makes people see the ‘machine elves’ but afaik it’s well less than 50% of people / experiences who see them, and they take wildly different forms for different people. I also think a lot of that is psychosomatic- people going into an experience expecting to see something specific will sometimes synthesize that experience for themselves.
The effects of deleriants tend to be more reliable, from my understanding, like dramamine making people see people who aren’t there / are dead. Which was a really uncanny experience when i tried it; youre not hallucinating the experience, but rather the memory of it having just happened, almost like waking up from a dream over and over. Like id looks up at the empty chair in my room and think ‘wasnt my brother just there talking about walking in the woods? Oh wait, he couldnt have been, he passed away 3 years ago’ i also kept hallucinating a cigarette, like id think I had just had ine between my fingers, had just taken a drag, and go to take another, then think I must have dropped it, only to realize there was no smoke in the room, I was just falsely remembering.
I suspect these mushrooms have a mild deleriant compound in them, although even then were talking very consistent results.
Exactly. To my understanding, when people see demons, theyre being what they imagine a demon to look like, with no coherence between experiencers unless they already had a shared framework for those entities. Its similar to my seeing people I knew, memory/ imagination combined with a dream like state, innthe case of demons, probably with a component of chemically induced fear contributing.
Id be curious to see more in depth testing on these mushrooms. Do the small people all have the same size between experiencers? Similar clothing, attributes, actions and movements, etc?
In other words, how much of the e tities is defined by the user and how much the drug?
These mushrooms produce pretty consistent results. From what I’ve heard, most people that eat them report seeing tiny men. Wayyy more consistent and specific of a hallucination then eating a standard cubensis mushroom.
I’m not claiming there’s anything more than a hallucination going on here, but it is fascinating how specific and consistent the results are. Makes you wonder about the future of hallucinogens, perhaps one day we can synthesise specific trips, kind of like a total recall situation where you could choose what you want to experience
Sounds way more consistent than any halucinogen with a common theme that people see. Like DMT makes people see the ‘machine elves’ but afaik it’s well less than 50% of people / experiences who see them, and they take wildly different forms for different people. I also think a lot of that is psychosomatic- people going into an experience expecting to see something specific will sometimes synthesize that experience for themselves.
The effects of deleriants tend to be more reliable, from my understanding, like dramamine making people see people who aren’t there / are dead. Which was a really uncanny experience when i tried it; youre not hallucinating the experience, but rather the memory of it having just happened, almost like waking up from a dream over and over. Like id looks up at the empty chair in my room and think ‘wasnt my brother just there talking about walking in the woods? Oh wait, he couldnt have been, he passed away 3 years ago’ i also kept hallucinating a cigarette, like id think I had just had ine between my fingers, had just taken a drag, and go to take another, then think I must have dropped it, only to realize there was no smoke in the room, I was just falsely remembering.
I suspect these mushrooms have a mild deleriant compound in them, although even then were talking very consistent results.
Lots of trip reports on delerients involve talking to devils and demons and the like.
Okay, but again, the question remains: how much of that is power of suggestion and priming/expectation?
Exactly. To my understanding, when people see demons, theyre being what they imagine a demon to look like, with no coherence between experiencers unless they already had a shared framework for those entities. Its similar to my seeing people I knew, memory/ imagination combined with a dream like state, innthe case of demons, probably with a component of chemically induced fear contributing.
Id be curious to see more in depth testing on these mushrooms. Do the small people all have the same size between experiencers? Similar clothing, attributes, actions and movements, etc?
In other words, how much of the e tities is defined by the user and how much the drug?
You have any further reading on this?
https://erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml