• Malkhodr @lemmygrad.ml
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    30 days ago

    Another example of capitalist free speech.

    The very notion of analyzing Hamas or anyone that the US declares as “terrorists” is treated with the same contempt as Holocaust denial. Thought termination has got to be the thing that infuriates me the most about anti-communists. The refusal to even entertain opposing viewpoints to empire, instead choosing to take state department narratives at face value, EVEN WHEN THEY KNOW THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS LYING.

    Like I know people who go could go on for an hour about how bullshit the western media coverage around Palestine is, but then go on to repeat the state departments talking points for a bunch if other issues.

    They’ll still say things like “Hamas is an antisemetic fundamentalist movement, even if they aren’t as bad as Israel” which is mind boggling to me.

    Like once I was with a comrade at an organized protest, a relatively chill affair mind you, and this supposedly leftist supporter came around to us and sat down. Me, the comrade, and this leftist, get to talking, obviously about politics, and are giving a healthy discussion. Then at one point the “leftist” offhandidly makes a remark tangentially related to the DPRK, something about Kim Jung Un killing his brother/unce or whatever with nerve poison.

    My comrade gently pushes back with something like “I’m not sure that is true” which earns a confident declaration that it’s been confirmed. Again my comrade pushed forward asking “confirmed by who? A lot of the stuff that’s aud about the DPRK comes straight from the US”. Instead of potentially thinking about the claim they had made just prior and its source, our “leftist” friend replies with “I’m sorry, are you defending North Korea?”

    Immediately, they chose to terminate even the concept that perhaps my comrade was correct. The three of us were at a protest for Palestine, we’d discussed the media campaign used the the US and Israel to obfuscate the truth of genocide. For all otents and purposes this individual should have been well accustomed to the atrocity propaganda tactics of the US.

    Yet when it came time to confront their own beliefs, faced with allies who’ve clearly demonstrated an understanding of political analysis, they shoved their head in the sand.

    My comrade tried to reiterate that our leftist friend might want to examine the sources to their claims, but is unfortunately most with a “just becuase they oppose the US doesn’t make North Korea not a horrible dictatorship.”

    Now, when it comes to Hamas, I’d be confident in saying that the thought termination isn’t nearly as bad. After the Nazi like actions of Israel, I’ve found that most people who aren’t explicit zionists are willing to hear a fair analysis if Hamas, going so far as to ask follow up questions in good faith. The Palestinian resistance being declared a taboo subject is only in the realm of capitlist owned media platforms.

    When you can confidently speak on the topic of Palestinian resistance, which I’ve become capable of doing, the average US denizen, will genuinely hear out your thoughts if their willing to stomach political topics.

    Only zionist true believers will try and contest you, but if your in public, it’s quite easy to humiliate their genocidal logic to on lookers. Otherwise, engaging with a zionist isn’t a worthwhile endeavor, as it will only cause you to lose hope in humanity.

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      30 days ago

      My comrade tried to reiterate that our leftist friend might want to examine the sources to their claims, but is unfortunately most with a “just because they oppose the US doesn’t make North Korea not a horrible dictatorship.”

      This paragraph is interesting technology, it raised my blood pressure remotely. Well, it’s more respectable to just admit when you don’t know something, I wish people would do this more. I keep running into the same kind of stuff with people’s attitudes about Maduro, Iran, etc.