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  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 month ago

    I really want this comment section to become a giant argument about whether the characters are correctly labelled by their tendency. I’ll kick us off.

    Sam should be ML because he would have purged Gollum

    • AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 month ago

      I’m reasonably certain an anarchist would have purged gollum, plus Sam is the one thinking about his friends and small community while Frodo is constantly focused on world scale events.

      Sam just wants to grow potatoes and keep his friends safe. If that means killing a spider that literally almost ate the devil then sure he’ll do that, but mostly he just wants to be a gardener.

      Frodo also turns on Sam despite how helpful/loyal Sam has been the entire time and later is corrupted by absolute power. This is reminiscent of a certain ml country that turned on anarchists as soon as the revolution happened…

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        1 month ago

        He’s not cOrRuPPTeD bY AbSOlutE pOWer meme. There objectively exists sabotage against their project and he is deceived by the evidence present to temporarily purging Sam from the party.

        • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          it’s just sad, that the moment we hang the last billionaire, us commies and anarchist will immediately become enemies. 😞

          • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            It’s not inevitable, after all we want the same end result - a classless, stateless, moneyless society.

            If it has truly gotten to the point where every last billionaire is gone, then I would argue that is pretty good evidence for the end of the hegemony of capital. I’m not sure that the material conditions of a world like that would require a dictatorship of the proletariat, and much more alignment with anarchists could be reached.

            Of course, if we are talking about a more realistic scenario like a revolution in a single nation, then absolutely a central state is required to protect the revolution from reactionaries.

          • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            1 month ago

            Yeah it would seem really counterproductive and a solution would be best. It would be cool to find compromise there but of course fascism has to dominate the conversation currently

            • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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              1 month ago

              that’s the tragedy of Catalunya. on the civil war between Republican Catalunya and Fascist Spain, Catalunya had a minicivil war between the communists and anarchists.

              they are a bit ideologically incompatible. both hate capitalism, so it makes sense that they are friends now, but one intendeds to replace capitalism with a proletariat state, and the other consideres states as intrinsically evil, regardless of capitalism.

              I’ll miss all my commie friends once the revolution comes 😔

              • BeefandSquints@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                1 month ago

                I mean, you could just fuck off into the woods and visit when you want to, real commies won’t hunt you. I think it’s legit for people to want to live collectively under a state, and I think it’s legit for people to want to be completely independent. Without the never ending appetite of capitalism, I think the two could coexist.

                • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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                  1 month ago

                  interesting, the revolution isn’t here and yet you preemptively exiled me from my community.

                  I think you have an ideological misconception.

                  anarchy isn’t individualism. it is the opposite of individual independence. it’s based on mutual aid, we help each other in a collective without a state that can legally kidnap, imprison, kill you whenever it deems convenient and will lash out at anything that will threaten the state.

                  it’s the needless power structures that are intrinsically evil, racism, capitalism, sexism, state/people.

  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
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    1 month ago

    There are two political ideologies inside you

    And they’re boys

    They’re both boys and they’re kissing

    :3