They’re agreeing with each other that Islam is “full of bad ideas”. It’s true that being against radicals doesn’t make you against the whole religion, but they are clearly saying that they are against the whole religion, even if they try to walk it back
Both Maher and (more recently) Harris have been failing to sufficiently admit the horrors being committed by the West, trying to defend it and other vile things; but they weren’t wrong in what they said in the video: they both think religions are very bad ideas - that religions are fairytales based on lies and the rejection of reality. Pointing out that compared to other popular religions, the percentage of believers in Islam-majority countries who agree with e.g. the death-cult behavior of killing of apostates is vastly higher than in other countries/religions.
Can you think of a non-Muslim country where 99% of the people want to have the country’s laws be religious instead of secular, and 79% of those want the death penalty for anyone not wanting to be a member of that religion anymore?
Even 50%?
I could then look up if anyone have thought of even asking that question in such countries.
They’re agreeing with each other that Islam is “full of bad ideas”. It’s true that being against radicals doesn’t make you against the whole religion, but they are clearly saying that they are against the whole religion, even if they try to walk it back
Both Maher and (more recently) Harris have been failing to sufficiently admit the horrors being committed by the West, trying to defend it and other vile things; but they weren’t wrong in what they said in the video: they both think religions are very bad ideas - that religions are fairytales based on lies and the rejection of reality. Pointing out that compared to other popular religions, the percentage of believers in Islam-majority countries who agree with e.g. the death-cult behavior of killing of apostates is vastly higher than in other countries/religions.
Got any sources for other religions? That link isn’t comparative so we can’t draw conclusions “compared to other popular religions” from it
Not that I know of.
It doesn’t seem like a sensible question to ask Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoists, or Taoists.
For Christians, hundreds of years ago: yes.
Oh, it doesn’t seem sensible? Let’s not muddle up the statistics with data or anything.
Can you think of a non-Muslim country where 99% of the people want to have the country’s laws be religious instead of secular, and 79% of those want the death penalty for anyone not wanting to be a member of that religion anymore?
Even 50%?
I could then look up if anyone have thought of even asking that question in such countries.
You know what is about to go down when somebody pulls out the statistics.
A discussion based on facts, if the statistics come from honest sources?
Yes just like when people pull our black crime statistics in a discussion about the police problem. A very “factual” discussion.
Is Pew, and https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/ specifically, dishonest?
It is specifically completely irrelevant to the discussion. Are you going to start posting Talmud links next?
I agree, which is why it’s a hot take. They kind of have a point, but they fumble it.