• Azrael@reddthat.com
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    6 days ago

    I have a Proton Unlimited subscription which has replaced Gmail, Google Drive, Google Calendar, and Express VPN. Proton is a fantastic company. Definitely worth the money.

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      2 days ago

      Be mindful about putting all your eggs on one basket. One company, however good (currently), controlling a big chunk of your data…

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        1 day ago

        I know. Putting all your eggs in one basket usually isn’t good.

        But Proton is different because they don’t actually store your data. Not really. Emails are end-to-end encrypted and the keys are stored on the user’s device. Same with Proton Drive. The user is in control. Not Proton.

        Even if the police demanded Proton hands over VPN data, Proton couldn’t comply because they don’t actually have data to hand over.

        It’s not just smoke and mirrors either. Proton is under Swiss jurisdiction. They legally can’t store logs. Plus their software is open-source.

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          1 day ago

          This is all true and I trust them with my email currently also, however I prefer to use them for only email because if my files, photos, email and credentials are in their hands and they have a substantial outage, I’m without all that data for however long.

          Plus they are just another company at the end of the day. They could change their motive or be taken over by an org without good faith.

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            But your files, photos, and credentials aren’t in their hands. They only have encrypted, unreadable blobs of text. The keys are stored on your device.

            Plus, you should have backups on a hard drive anyway. If Proton had a substantial outage and you didn’t have an offline backup of your data somewhere then it would be difficult to have sympathy for you.

            Lastly, it’s as valid to say “they could be taken over by an org without good faith” as it is to say “the sun won’t rise tomorrow”.

            Switzerland recently proposed a new law which would compromise user privacy. So what did Proton do? They decided to scatter their physical infrastructure in different locations across Europe while keeping their headquarters in Geneva to fight the legal battle.

            That’s a sign of a company who won’t just bend over and let people push them around.

            Plus, Proton’s website claims that a lot of their data centers are housed in former military bases. Anyone who wants to raid them is welcome to try, but they’re not getting in.