That’s fine for the primaries

We should have had a primary. I’ll never forgive Biden for that.

I also don’t forgive people who knew better and still didn’t vote for the only viable alternative to Trump.

We have to put together a winning coalition to get these monsters out of power, but that coalition isn’t going to line perfectly with your or my politics. If it did, it would alienate a lot of people to our right, which is probably at least 90% of the country in both our cases. Somebody has to hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.

We didn’t try it in 2024. How do you rate the results of that one?

Yeah we probably disagree on what right wing means. I hope you’re not throwing your vote away every year, because that is not helpful and we need help right now!

In a two party system, a small tent is no tent. We can move the Democrats left. It’s happening now, in a big way, on the Israel issue.

One of them has to be wrong.

In any case, the specific states from which the superdelegates come is arbitrary. They were an unfair practice regardless, and I hope they remain inconsequential from now on.

I voted for Bernie too, and was disappointed (especially in 2020), and angry that the party clearly wanted to put their thumb on the scale for Clinton and Biden. On the other hand, Bernie didn’t come close to winning the popular vote across all states in the 2016 primary, and there was no way I wasn’t going to vote for Clinton against Trump that November.

You’re right. I just edited my previous comment. The articles don’t agree. I’m inclined to think the WV specific article is the accurate one, in which case, you’d be right: Clinton got 19 delegates total to Bernie’s 18

Well shit, that settles it. I’m never voting again. Let MAGA burn it all down.

Wikipedia. The second one has a “Maps” section where you can see the total delegate count for both of them in every state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_West_Virginia_Democratic_presidential_primary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

Edit: I see now that there is a discrepancy between the WV article and the national one. In the first article, the table shows Clinton getting all 8 superdelegates like you said, while the map in the second article shows it as 20-17 for Bernie

Bernie won 18 delegates and got 2 superdelegates (20 total). Clinton won 11 delegates and got 6 superdelegates (17 total). Bernie won WV.

If you argue that superdelegates are unfair, I agree. There was enough pushback against them that, in 2018, the DNC changed the rules so that superdelegates can’t vote on the first ballot anymore.

This is really getting into the weeds, and there are many other ways that the Democrats are not ideal, but none of it changes the fact that allowing Republicans to obtain power is the worst case scenario. We’re seeing how that plays out right now.

She didn’t

Bernie got 18 delegates to Clinton’s 11. What do you mean Clinton won the state?

In the primaries

Absolutely primary these guys, but remember that most incumbents will win their primaries.

Even if more progressive candidates don’t win the primaries in those seats, yes, still vote for the Democrats.

Get ready for a lot of left-splitting posts like this as the midterms get nearer.

In a million years, I couldn’t code The Last of Us Part 3. I’m at their mercy

Here’s a quote from a different Wikipedia article:

“Xi was elected president on 14 March 2013, in a confirmation vote during the first session of the 12th National People’s Congress in Beijing. He received 2,952 for, one vote against, and three abstentions.”

That man will be “president” for the rest of his life. Good thing he’s so popular! 100% of the “vote”

Did you even read the intro to the article you linked? You’re embarrassing yourself

Wait, so you think they do have elections in China? And I’m supposed to prove to you that they don’t? How should I go about satisfying you?

It’s not just vibes. The censorship in China is unparalleled. Try being Chinese and going on their equivalent of YouTube or Twitter and posting simply “I don’t like Xi JinPing’s policies. I think we need a new leader.” Your posts will be removed, and if you keep it up, you will be imprisoned.

Also, they’re not a democracy. They don’t get to choose or change who is in power. There is basically no mechanism for pushing back against anything the government does in China.

In the US, we’re getting a little taste of that kind of unaccountability with ICE, and there is outrage, which is still legal to express. Hopefully, the whole top of our government will change hands in a couple years. I’m thankful I live somewhere that is possible.