Ironic how one of the pig types is literally called ice

You need to be more alarmed about this.

Conservatives (and the rich tend to side with conservatives) have no imagination and project their own intentions on others.

I cannot possibly stress this enough:

IF THEY THINK WE’RE GOING TO VIOLENTLY ATTACK THEM, IT’S SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE PREPARING TO ATTACK US THEMSELVES.

They have THOROUGHLY demonstrated that they can’t imagine anyone wanting to do anything but that which they themselves want to do, are preparing to do, or are ALREADY DOING.

Mark my words:

The rich are preparing to exterminate us all.

Oh, what’s that?

Palantir doesn’t like it when people know about THEIR dirty laundry?

Wow. Golly. Gee whiz. Color me shocked with a marker that is bone fucking dry.

Maybe they should’ve thought about that before trying to fuck with OUR private business.

Palantir has violated social contract and no longer deserves privacy.

yea man as much as i hate victim blaming i really want people to NOT dress themselves in a toga stitched together out of raw meat before they leap down into the pit of starving hyenas >.>

i wouldn’t be so mean as to call that attempted tourist stupid but i would sympathetically tell them “that’s rough buddy” before gesturing in their direction to address others with “please don’t do what they did.”

France ought to know better than any country that appeasement never turns out well when it comes to fascists.

i mean it’s either that or the sobbing twenties i suppose…

oh yeah i figured it was something like this, treating their literal captive population like guinea pigs instead of human beings. Of course. It’s what fascists DO. Just like what German fascists did to Jews, just like what Japanese fascists did to the Chinese.

I’m dreading the eventuality that the united states will begin doing it to people it decides post-hoc are “foreign”, like fully fledged citizens it chooses to “denaturalize” because it wants an excuse to murder with impunity they’re not “american” enough…

you’d think there’d be at least one group on earth who would know better than anyone to let this shit slide,
but instead Israel is ROLLING in that shit like it’s a luxurious mudbath at a spa.

utterly hideous behavior no matter who does it, but with added hypocrisy.

evil shit emerges into the world, you look where it comes from… … a fascist police state. yeah, i suppose that tracks. gods how i fucking hate this timeline.

i feel like this kind of event is extremely apropos for this cursed decade. The SCREAMING twenties. Because they sure ain’t roaring.

they were taught to by the pedophile billionaires who had a hand in shaping the ‘culture’ of Pol.

the discussion here managed to convince me that the pan has not, in fact, managed just yet to become more uncomfortable than the fire.

but for a little while there, that’s actually where my mind was at. sitting in the pan, submerged in boiling oil, thinking “hm… would the fire be less awful just this once?” - but I’m straight up admitting that I was wrong to think that. It’s the effect of another metaphor blending in: the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. The point of which, is: the grass isn’t actually any greener over there, it just seems to look greener subjectively due to lack of closer direct personal experience.

i’m glad you shoved all these words in my mouth because now i know better than to bother with your opinion. blocked.

Well, the US has also begun sending federal agents to “visit” people who have said disparaging things about the regime lately >.>

China did NOT become any better than it had been… it’s just that the united states has gotten worse.

relatively speaking: in any of the ways in which the united states can still be said to be better than china, it is less better today than it had been a few years ago, and its trajectory at this time is presently accelerating in a direction that will not be a good time for most of the people living here.

but alright. i’ll take your word for it that all the instances we see of people being terrorized by the chinese government is NOT just manufactured anti-china propaganda. I’ll continue taking it, even if with more grains of salt than i used to…

I mean it’s not like they WOULD say “We are morally opposed to israel” because actually saying that out loud in an international environment would’ve created a shit ton of drama. Meanwhile, saying “it’s because of your war” is kinda passive aggressively rubbing it in that attacking palestine was a bad move.

…

hm.

In light of your comment, though, I’m willing to accept that I was probably just projecting >.> it’s WAAAAAY more likely I was just indulging wishful thinking and not-so-subconsciously presuming the morality of others based on their actions rather than their words and that’s not actually smart of me like, at all. So… thank you for the second opinion. You have in fact helped me perceive more much-needed nuance here.

Edit:

The discussion here has managed to sway me, especially when someone wrote this:

Being fried in a pan, the fire is starting to look comfortable?

That’s exactly what the delusion was. From a blend of hallucinating the content of another metaphor (the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence), for a little while there I actually did wonder if the dry flames would’ve been less agonizing than being entirely submerged in this boiling oil. But it’s not better. Plainly.

Furthermore I don’t need to believe US propaganda in order to be cognizant of China’s administrative and governmental shortfalls. Even if I didn’t have any information telling me how “bad” China is, why would I trust any of the propaganda about how “good” it is? I don’t have reliable information to build a conclusion upon either way.

But at this stage I’m no longer reflexively and mindlessly defaulting to “CHINA BAD”.

even though people get real mad at me for questioning my indoctrination, i think questioning it has been a largely constructive experience.

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… huh.

man.

hate to state what some might consider obvious, but this is actually a novel thought for a critter like me–something that has been raised entirely immersed in bullshit propaganda for its entire life…

but uh, wow, a lot of the propaganda I’ve had shoveled down my gullet all along has just been straight up false, hasn’t it.

China was never the ‘bad guy’…

They are literally upstaging the united states in every way. Quite possibly they have been for a long time and I’m only just now capable of seeing it since the illusion of civil rights and humane decency has gone up in smoke here in the US what with the government’s quiet repressive acts now becoming VERY VERY LOUD. >.<

If China even is sending squads of state sponsored domestic terrorist masked goons to murder their own civilians like the US federal government is, people either aren’t making a lot of noise about it or their media control apparatus has kept a lid on it better than the US has.

…

I would’ve been sarcastic about that in the past but now I am honestly and truthfully of an open mind here for possibly the first time in my life. I had believed my mind was open in the past but there are some presuppositions that have just … suddenly stopped holding water.

If China really is better than the United States in every metric, I sure hope more americans will realize it sooner rather than later. I’m still gathering information, though.

Damn. I remember a time when I actually believed that ‘social credit system’ horseshit. Now I know that there was only ever ONE municipality that tried to do with it what the anti-china propaganda implied and they were punished for it by the national government because it was a stupid thing to do, and that otherwise ‘social credit’ was only ever proposed as an accountability system for public officials, not for personal individuals just living their every day lives.

Kinda expecting people will come out of the woodwork on here to dunk on me for my ignorance, though, one way or another ._.